to embrace taking on obama care. and making it available to the states and the other point i wanted to add to that was the fiscal aspect to it. because in terms of not bringing it to your own state, you are incurring a tremendous loss in terms of state budget. so i'm just puzzled why the states that -- keep out of it. >> i mentioned over 56,000 people in kentucky have signed up under obama care. >> exactly. >> the wths went behind the numbers to a clinic in rural part of the state where the paper says the long uninsured are lining up. quote, one woman cried when she was told she qualified for medicaid. another man said, listen to this, well thank god. i believe i'm going to be a democrat. that what they're afraid of, james? >> well, yes. i mean, that's what -- you know, that's how they see entitlements and immigration reform as well. that it will increase the sort of democratic voting populous. let's look at it from a compassionate perspective. what's happening in kentucky is poor people, working class people, people